Archive for August, 2008

Geoffrey Perkins, RIP

Saturday, August 30th, 2008

Stupid, ghastly news and near-impossible to fully convey in mere words exactly how we’re feeling today.

By way of a meagre tribute-offering, here’s a wonderful Perkins-heavy episode of Radio Active.

Radio Active - Series 7, Show 5 (26/09/87)
‘Mike Says Here’s A Bit Of Talent’

The SOTCAA ‘Crappy Old Real Video Captures Found On An Old CD-ROM’ Bonanza

Thursday, August 28th, 2008

While going through an ancient backup disc for reference for the And Now, In Colour TV pilot the other week, we found a shitload of old Real Video captures of things previously covered - or intended to be covered - on the site. So while we’re busily preparing the next batch of articles, why not have a gander at them yourself. Some of them are, y’know, quite interesting. Even in the form of a blotchy 320 x 240 picture running at 15 frames per second…

Note: These are all Megaupload links

  Oh, it's so inte....
 

Not The Nine O’ Clock News - ‘pilot’ show (49.7mb)

Or, more accurately, the infamous withdrawn Show 1. For more info on this we refer you to our old article here.

 
  How could you *blow* that gag?
 

Red Dwarf - Smeg-Ups (rough cut) (51.3mb)

A half-hour early assembly of the first Red Dwarf out-takes release, lacking the post-production sound effects and the Kryten linking material (’Link Goes Here’ captions ahoy). As far as we can recall this also boasts a few bits of studio chatter which didn’t make it to either Smeg-Ups or Smeg-Outs. No idea if they feature on the DVDs. Next Week: that elusive ‘Black Guitar’ session tape…

 
  Comedy is never safe...
 

Monty Python at the BAFTAS (11.0mb)

As quoted on the old site, the Pythons receive the Michael Balcon Award from Princess Anne. Rather nice. Spot the 80s comedians in the audience.

 
  ..and twelve sheep in the other hand
 

The Nualas - The Big Shiny Dress Tour (94.7mb)

Ahh, remember The Nualas? Remember those angelic harmonies? Remember those odd Beckettian songs? Remember Danny Wallace using his BBC page to sneakily diss the return of their Radio 4 show? Remember that second series eventually not happening and co-writer Nev Fountain becoming very cagey when asked the reasons why? Remember Paul Jackson turning down their TV proposal? Remember Supergirly lowering the bar generally? At the turn of the century The Nualas represented a wee bit of hope - the vaguest inkling of a good attitude prevailing in the comedy industry. This is their one and only video release, from 2000. All 90 minutes of it. Genuinely delightful and silly. Accept no substitutes.

 
  Try one more while we're runni...
 

The Beatles - David Frost Show Theme Tune (1.31mb)

Quick bit of rushes footage from 1968. Probably on YouTube a dozen times over but it was on the same disc so sod it, here it is. Lovely bit of Macca trying to make a suggestion at the start and then shrinking back as Lennon counts in their rendition of the Frost sig tune.

 
  Happy Healing...
 

Dr Scrote - Kitchen Safety (7.25mb)

Great clip of Roland Rivron on The Last Resort, C4, 1988-ish. The whole show was coming live from some family’s house that particular week (the studio audience were set up in the street outside watching on monitors). Rivron played Dr Martin Scrote, the show’s resident physician.

 
  Ghosts have taken over in Holland...
 

The Day Today - pilot additional material (19.4mb)

Ah, now, isn’t this the section of the pilot showreel which didn’t make it to the DVD? Includes an alternate ‘Genutainment’, the 999 pisstake without the narration, a brief Business News and a bunch of randomly-scattered Alan Partridge sports commentry.

 
  No, we *hate* the Chipmunks...
 

Going Live - Ade Edmondson (8.93mb)

A bit of Ade Edmondson - with daughters in tow - being interviewed by Sarah Greene in the early 90s. Note: Richard O’Brien was also a guest on this particular edition and had dropped hints that he was writing a Rocky Horror sequel (’Revenge of the Old Queen’, incidentally, which never got made). Edmonson had played Brad Majors in a then-recent Rocky stage production - hence Greene’s question about whether he’d appear in the sequel.

X-Ray Texts

Thursday, August 21st, 2008

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- Joseph -
Seen Graham Linehan’s savage satire of TV critics who attack first episodes of sit-coms? That’ll teach ‘em. I wonder what the gravity’s like on his planet…
17:06:22
15-08-2008

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- Mike -
IT Crowd s3 is in production - that’s all it is. Cue some bollocks publicity stunt about him ‘not having time’ to design the sets, like it’s even slightly his job.
Sent:
18:32:01
15-08-2008
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- Joseph -
We should send in some old copies of Select. Between takes he could re-read all his old articles and remind himself that he used to write like an adult.
Sent:
22:39:01
15-08-2008

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- Joseph -
Ha - just remembered Herring back in ‘99 suggesting that the early Teds weren’t that good: “…but sitcoms need time to develop and settle down” - cut to him writing seven thousand eps of TGP…
Sent:
22:45:35
15-08-2008

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- Mike -
Linehan’s now pretending to be annoyed that news websites have reported his prop-appeal. Cue textbook ‘It was only meant as a joke - now look what I’ve done!’ bullshit.
Sent:
16:05:28
18-08-2008

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- Joseph -
Popper-tastic. Same old same old then - internet saddoes must *never* be trusted, unless we can get them to spread the hype virally. Tell you what, Mike, there’s a distinct lack of ‘charm’ in today’s fake word-of-mouth…
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16:50:45
18-08-2008

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- Mike -
Cut to Graham on his planet: ‘Thanks for bringing that gravity in, by the way…’
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16:57:09
18-08-2008

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Articles From A Time When Critics Were Still Allowed To Say What They Genuinely Thought

Monday, August 18th, 2008

#1: David Quantick on Derek and Clive
(NME, 25 September 1993 - p26)

 
  Eyebrow, lowbrow…or just Lowenbrau?
 

OBERGRUMPYFUHRER

He wants to be Goering, but being Liberace would be ‘tasteless’. PETER COOK, loveable curmudgeon and comedy doyen, is back, promoting an infamous video of Derek and Clive, the characters he created with Dudley Moore. DAVID QUANTICK undertakes the worst job he’s ever had…

‘We did this video for my company, Peter Cook Productions,’ drawls Peter Cook over a deadly-looking cigarette and a Bucks Fizz. ‘Not a company that did much. About as much as John Birt Productions, in fact…’

So here I am in a Hampstead faded-posho cafe with the great Peter Cook, one of the most important figures in British comedy, the man who went from playing in Beyond the Fringe to starting Private Eye and thence forward through the ’60s and ’70s in splendour - and he is here to promote Derek and Clive Get the Horn, a video redolent of dismalness to the max. Oh well. Let’s talk and Derek and Clive for a bit. Those two warped variants on Pete and Dud have, after all, been very popular.

‘We did them, for fun in ‘73 in New York and we got on to that tape which also included The Troggs Tape - remember that, ‘We need a fucking 12-string’?’ recalls Cook in a West Country bastard accent. ‘There was David Dimbleby and Harold Wilson losing his rag and saying ‘You wouldn’t ask Edward Heath about his yacht’, Orson Welles auditioning for the part of a frozen pea - a number of very funny tracks all on this bootleg cassette. And eventually Chris Blackwell [Island Records founder] put them out on an album.’

There were three Derek and Clive albums, and this film. Cook hadn’t seen Get the Horn until he and director Russell Mulcahy (Highlander, lots of pop vids) got together to edit the copious footage.

‘I was quite shocked, I’d forgotten some of it,’ Cook admits. ‘I don’t play those records for recreation. At my age, you don’t play Derek and Clive in the Vauxhall as a romantic background.’

Or, indeed, for laffs. No one sane can possibly enjoy the awful ‘cunt-kicking’ routine, can they?

Cook nods. ‘That’s the most horrible, but on the other hand, you can’t re-edit it to fit in with fashion. It’s like all those Bogart films where he’s smoking…I’m not making the comparison, but it would be foolish to change it because it made you cringe a bit.’

The video is preceded by trailers for equally excellent product by Bernard Manning and Chubby Brown. It is worse.

‘Filth…are we not under the sex education arm?’ laughs Cook and then acknowledges the rampantly unpleasant misogyny of the whole thing. ‘One of the bits that Dudley wrote was this awful scene where I’m with the inflatable doll. I wound up slapping her round the face. It’s an inflatable doll, I’m not slapping a woman. But I’d forgotten I’d done that. When the stripper comes back, she says I’m awful - an actual woman comes in and we’re so embarrassed. Eventually, I remember getting rid of her by doing an impression of the cunt-sucker and strangling her…I edited out the footage where I stab her and put her in a bin-liner and throw her in the canal.’

Stop, our sides have split. How drunk were you when this film was made? Cook looks aghast.

‘Not at all. Not any more than Dudley was drunk in Arthur. A bit of red wine in the control room. They’re very easy characters to portray,’ he says, demonstrating by swearing and mumbling a bit. ‘The number of people who come up to me and go ‘My mates down the pub are funnier than you’ - well, why don’t they do a fucking record instead of talking to me?’

Quite. Moving on to happier topics, it seems Cook is playing a ‘cruel Lord’ in a remake of Black Beauty and has a curious ambition.

‘I’ve always wanted to play an SS officer and I’ve always wanted to drive around in a jewelled tank,’ he drawls, louchely. ‘I’d like to be Goering, going round taking people’s art, going round with this gigantic showbiz tank. I think I’d have silver filigree mirrors and Art Deco…

‘And the uniform. I think he dressed too conservatively,’ says Peter, warming to his topic. ‘He should have veered a little bit towards the Liberace style. I loved Liberace. I saw him at the Palladium. He was wearing tiny little stars-and-stripes shorts and moving about on stage. He said, ‘I can’t dance but you have to admire my audacity’.’

Why not play Liberace then?

‘Well, Liberace…you have to be careful because he’s dead,’ says Cook in an outbreak of tastefulness. ‘And I don’t want to speak ill of the dead.’

‘Goering’s dead,’ points out photographer and accuracy man Derek Ridgers.

‘I believe he is,’ agrees Cook. ‘I wasn’t speaking ill of him, though, was I?’

We move on, a bit, to talk of Nazi film director Leni Riefenstahl, who Cook doesn’t want to play, and then to ‘Allo ‘Allo.

‘I mean, talk about tasteless,’ says Cook. ‘Occupied France under the Nazis…’

Does Peter Cook have any taste boundaries?

‘I’m not sure I do. As I’ve said before, if I say down to write something to shock - which is a pointless exercise - it would be a lot more tasteless than Derek and Clive,’ he declares. ‘But why shock everybody? Absolutely no interest in doing it. Dudley wrote a sketch on Derek and Clive Come Again where he’s wanking over a picture of his mum and dad, and his mum comes in, and Dudley says, ‘Oh, sorry, mum, the doctor told me I’ve got cancer of the knob and I’ve got to get the pus out’. Shocking. That stretched my limits of shock to the full.’

And there we have it. Follow Peter Cook and his career wherever it may take you, readers, but don’t buy any Derek and Clive videos.

FIVE GREAT PETER COOK MOMENTS

BEYOND THE FRINGE
Peter Cook, Dudley Moore, Jonathan Miller and Alan Bennett. Bloody hell, or what? Cambridge Footlights type in Amazingly Funny Shock.

PRIVATE EYE
There are no other magazines quite like it. ‘I still own it and I still write for it,’ says Cook, who can still be found contributing to The Secret Diary of John Major.

BEDAZZLED
Dudley Moore is Stanley Moon, lovesick short order chef. Peter Cook is the devil, and bloody sexy with it too. The scene where Cook explains Lucifer’s fall from heaven while sitting on top of a pillar box is without peer in the history of popular theology.

 
  Cig vicious: Pistols fan Cook
 

NOT ONLY BUT ALSO
Not only one of the greatest sketch shows of all time, but also the first programme to take the piss out of Gerry Anderson with the spleen-burstingly funny ‘Superthunderstingcars’ parody.

THE SEX PISTOLS
Taste, wit and anarchy presented almost weekly when Cook was the strange host of top punk rock TV show Revolver. ‘I liked the Pistols above all the other stuff. I remember accusing Johnny Rotten, who he then was, of nicking a lot of his vocal style from Buddy Holly,’ claims Cook. He also asserts that ‘John Lydon said one of their songs was based almost entirely on that song from Bedazzled where I’m singing ‘I don’t care’ an ‘I’m so plastic’. I don’t know which one, I was too pissed to remember.’

 

 

On the same page is Quantick’s review of the Get the Horn video itself:

PETER COOK AND DUDLEY MOORE: Derek and Clive Get the Horn (Polygram)

The Derek and Clive LPs, produced originally as private tapes by Cook and Moore, were cult faves in the 1970s, largely - oh, sod it, entirely - because they were crammed with sweating, deviant sexuality and extraordinary offensiveness. They were funny if you were pissed, and sometimes they weren’t even that.

 
  Pete ‘n’ Dud spot Jayne Mansfield and some lobsters.
 

Derek and Clive Get the Horn is a film from 1978 containing material from Derek and Clive Ad Nauseam, little seen until now for fairly clear reasons. Virtually none of it is funny; Cook and Moore veer from rambling improvisations about school buggery and sex with one’s mother to puerile monologues about giant bogies and thence into the merely unpleasant; one sketch ends in a description of ‘cunt-kicking’ and a song features a chorus about a ‘nigger’ who likes ‘white chicks’.

Along the way, Richard Branson appears, a stripper strips, there is an inflatable rubber doll and a ‘drug bust’ by members of the Virgin Records accounts department dressed as policemen. This video is rubbish.

 

 

 
 
 

NOTES:

Cook and Quantick appear to be talking at slightly cross-purposes regarding the editing of the film, giving the impression that the material had been edited/re-edited fairly recently. In fact, the 1993 re-issue (and indeed the later DVD incarnation) was identical to the original short-lived 1980 release.

The film had been rejected for cinema distribution by the BBFC on 21 October 1980, and was therefore released on home video instead. At that time, before ‘video nasty’ hysteria took hold, video was an unregulated industry where material did not require the same certification. (By way of enticement rather than revenge, BBFC director James Ferman’s letter of explanation for the film’s rejection was cheekily printed as the blurb on the original VHS box. As a final gag, parts of the letter were scribbled out in thick felt-tip.) Therefore, when Cook talks about how he’d ‘forgotten some it’, it’s possible he was talking about either (a) a recent re-acquaintance with the video itself, or (b) the experience of editing the footage circa 1980. The material, even at that stage, had been in the can for a while: the exact dates of the two Ad Nauseam sessions, only the second of which was filmed for Get the Horn, have never been confirmed, but some biographers claim that Cook’s reference to his friend Keith Moon’s death was a tastelessly topical one. If so, this narrows the recording down to September 1978.

Cook refers to Moore ‘writing’ sketches - since the items in question are clearly improvised, it’s likely he’s referring to Moore coming up with embryonic ideas. The premise of the ‘Mother’ sketch, which opens Get the Horn, has obviously been devised and agreed upon beforehand: ‘Let’s do ‘Mother’…’ the pair are heard to mutter. This not only calls into question the whole ‘Cook was the genius, Moore just sat there corpsing’ canard, it also suggests that Moore’s discomfort with the Derek and Clive project has been over-played. Moore does, after all, seem to be having more fun on Get the Horn than Cook.

Cook also shoots down another popular piece of Derek and Clive mythology - the assertion that the pair were drunk during the sessions. This is something that will probably remain forever ambiguous: Cook was an alcoholic but seldom looked/sounded drunk; Moore, meanwhile, was very good at acting drunk.

Naturally, we disagree with Quantick’s assessment of Derek and Clive, but his refusal to jump on the ‘Peter Cook was a fackin geenyus’ bandwagon (not to mention his reluctance to let crypto-misogyny/racism go unchallenged, no matter how colossal the comedy god) is ultimately quite refreshing. Wouldn’t happen, nowadays, etc. Truly, he was a Martin Cropper for the Slowdive generation.

Great SOTCAA Articles We Never Got Round To Writing #1

Saturday, August 16th, 2008

The Unaired ‘And Now, In Colour’ TV pilot

Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 00:29:52
To: SOTCAA
From: David Tyler
Subject: Re: Reply from SOTCAA: Some Thanks

> David,
>
> Thanks for your kind words re: the Ed Fringe silliness.  Has William
> Vandyck read it?  Please pass on our adoration to himself.  We hope
> to be running an ‘And Now In Colour’ retro piece on the site soon.
> Any words to that effect will be of great help.

 
 

Aha. Well now. I was approached by Tiger TV many moons ago to produce a pilot of “And Now In Colour” for BBC TV. I’m not sure what Lissa Evans felt about this - she being its then radio producer, and, of course, not only a mate and a good soul, but a future BAFTA winner for producing “Father Ted”s second series, anyway, as I was saying …

The BBC gave us 13p to do it with, so we decided to try and shoot the stuck-in-the-Post-Office-Tower episode, but interspersed with a couple of sketches, like the angry jingle singers song (”Rowena”) and the playing bridge/snap sketch.

 
 

We thought it was dead good, and in truth, a very fair representation of the radio show’s personalities; Mike still playing the grumpy Stephen King-reading cynic, Tim De Jongh (Tim Scott) the child, William the put-upon English anal retentive and Tim Firth the mover and shaker (and indeed, it was Tim F who supplied the narrative strand whilst everyone else wrote the sketches alongside him).

 
 

The BBC hummed and ha-ad (spelling?) then decided to give us *another* pilot, this time to be transmitted, but demanding a shake-up of the cast. So in stayed Tim De Jongh and William; out went Tim Firth and Mike, who kind of lost interest at that point - not unreasonably. So we cast some other people; you know, relative unknowns like Alistair McGowan and Caroline Aherne, and also Flip Webster, who I’d worked with on Radio 4’s “Live On Arrival”. We called it “It’s A Mad World World World World” after the 60s caper movie “It’s A Mad Mad Mad Mad World”. Yes, so it was the worst title ever, but not as bad as its working title which was, if I remember correctly, “Half A Sixp”.

This time, I managed to get Geoff Posner (my other half at Pozzitive) to direct it, although we weren’t allowed to make it a Pozzitive production, and he was halfway through shooting a Victoria Wood special at the same time. We thought it was fab; it had a very good blues-y sig tune by Absolutely’s best baldie, Monsieur Pete Baikie and a couple of really dead good sketches, like the Late Show spoof on a greeting cards poet and William’s Open University mathematician (yes, I did recognise that photo). And I still have some of the Subbuteo men from the Subbuteo sketch at home, if anyone’s interested …

Alas, the then Controller of BBC 2, Michael Jackson thought it was good, but not good enough. In truth, sketch shows were in very bad odour at the time; The Fast Show hadn’t happened, and the assumption was that sketches were pointless dead things best left in the bin. And of course, if you saw “TV To Go”, you might think he was right. Now stop it.

So there you go. Any pointless obsessive questions (like “What were the lyrics to the “James Bond theme tune as written by Richard Stilgoe”) are welcome, but I probably won’t remember anything. The truth is, that if you showed the pilot again on BBC 1 today, it would blow most of the current efforts out of the water.

And yes, I still think William is a talent waiting to happen. We must find the right vehicle!!

Lots of love,

dave

>Soz about Absolutely comments.  I was in a right old mood that day.

Ps you’re forgiven. They still talk to me you know.


David Tyler

 

> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:04:50
> To: SOTCAA
> From: David Tyler
> Subject: Oh, things …
>
> Your Edinburgh preview made me laugh like a pig, even though you
> were rude about everyone I’ve ever been friendly with ever.
> Do more stuff that funny, and I won’t get cross about you saying I
> fucked up Absolutely …
> dave
> –
> David Tyler
 
 


 

 
 

Postscript: Clips of It’s A Mad World World World World can probably be found on YouTube if you look hard enough and squint a bit. It is indeed fantastic. As for its never-screened precursor, we’ve whacked a crappy old Real Video capture up on Sendspace here (link updated 04/04/09). Not exactly a ‘lost classic’ (it was of course much better on the radio) but a nice enough way to kill half an hour.